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[Publicpolicy] JURI copyright mandate rejected by EP plenary
Dimitar Parvanov Dimitrov
2018-07-05 10:23:29 UTC
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Dear list,

The plenary of the European Parliament has just rejected the Legal Affairs
Committee with 278-318 votes and 31 abstentions.

This was a roll-call vote so will we know exactly who voted how.

This was a very tiring campaign that took us on an emotional rollercoaster
ride. Thanks to all volunteers and staff who helped. I am convinced that it
was us and our actions that made the difference of 30 votes possible.

Please remember though, that this just means that the EP will review the
text in September in plenary. We will need to make sure amendment proposals
are made and they receive a majority.

We will start working on this right away later today, but for the moment
you will understand that I need a drink.

Cheers from Strasbourg,

Dimi
Delphine Ménard
2018-07-05 10:25:31 UTC
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Prost and thanks for the hard work, Dimi and all :)

Delphine
Post by Dimitar Parvanov Dimitrov
Dear list,
The plenary of the European Parliament has just rejected the Legal Affairs
Committee with 278-318 votes and 31 abstentions.
This was a roll-call vote so will we know exactly who voted how.
This was a very tiring campaign that took us on an emotional
rollercoaster
ride. Thanks to all volunteers and staff who helped. I am convinced that it
was us and our actions that made the difference of 30 votes possible.
Please remember though, that this just means that the EP will review the
text in September in plenary. We will need to make sure amendment proposals
are made and they receive a majority.
We will start working on this right away later today, but for the moment
you will understand that I need a drink.
Cheers from Strasbourg,
Dimi
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Jan Gerlach
2018-07-05 10:26:44 UTC
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Dimi, Anna, Federico, thanks so much for your work in Strasbourg over the
past couple of days!

And thanks to everybody who helped get us here and open this up for the
next campaign. :) [Special shout out also to whoever at Wikimedia Spain had
the idea to tag @wikimediapolicy in their tweet that was retweeted more
than 2000x and completely broke my notifications.] :)

Cheers!

On Thu, Jul 5, 2018 at 12:23 PM Dimitar Parvanov Dimitrov <
Post by Dimitar Parvanov Dimitrov
Dear list,
The plenary of the European Parliament has just rejected the Legal Affairs
Committee with 278-318 votes and 31 abstentions.
This was a roll-call vote so will we know exactly who voted how.
This was a very tiring campaign that took us on an emotional rollercoaster
ride. Thanks to all volunteers and staff who helped. I am convinced that it
was us and our actions that made the difference of 30 votes possible.
Please remember though, that this just means that the EP will review the
text in September in plenary. We will need to make sure amendment proposals
are made and they receive a majority.
We will start working on this right away later today, but for the moment
you will understand that I need a drink.
Cheers from Strasbourg,
Dimi
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Matthias Smed Larsen
2018-07-05 10:34:02 UTC
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Can't come up with anything that Delphine and Jan haven't already said.
Thank you for your hard work, and know that y'all are an asset to the
movement.

Best regards,
Matthias Smed Larsen
Post by Dimitar Parvanov Dimitrov
Dear list,
The plenary of the European Parliament has just rejected the Legal
Affairs Committee with 278-318 votes and 31 abstentions.
This was a roll-call vote so will we know exactly who voted how.
This was a very tiring campaign that took us on an emotional
rollercoaster ride. Thanks to all volunteers and staff who helped. I
am convinced that it was us and our actions that made the difference
of 30 votes possible.
Please remember though, that this just means that the EP will review
the text in September in plenary. We will need to make sure amendment
proposals are made and they receive a majority.
We will start working on this right away later today, but for the
moment you will understand that I need a drink.
Cheers from Strasbourg,
Dimi
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Anna Mazgal
2018-07-05 10:44:11 UTC
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I said that already to some of you, but generally Strasbourg EP is a depressing place
 seeing the Wikipedia going dark one after another was so uplifting! I know this was done for the cause, but it was reassuring on the personal level none the less. And it stung the defenders of the existing balance of power where it hurts. It is a privilege and an honor to work with such a motivated community of great integrity. I (but I think all the policy people agree?) are happy to carry your voice forward.

Celebrate, rest, and we will get back to work! :)

Best wishes,
Anna

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Can't come up with anything that Delphine and Jan haven't already said. Thank you for your hard work, and know that y'all are an asset to the movement.
Best regards,
Matthias Smed Larsen
Post by Dimitar Parvanov Dimitrov
Dear list,
The plenary of the European Parliament has just rejected the Legal Affairs Committee with 278-318 votes and 31 abstentions.
This was a roll-call vote so will we know exactly who voted how.
This was a very tiring campaign that took us on an emotional rollercoaster ride. Thanks to all volunteers and staff who helped. I am convinced that it was us and our actions that made the difference of 30 votes possible.
Please remember though, that this just means that the EP will review the text in September in plenary. We will need to make sure amendment proposals are made and they receive a majority.
We will start working on this right away later today, but for the moment you will understand that I need a drink.
Cheers from Strasbourg,
Dimi
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Owen Blacker
2018-07-05 13:21:23 UTC
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Julia Reda has tweeted the roll-call:
https://twitter.com/Senficon/status/1014837043225088000, linking to the PDF
(see pages 7 and 8)
<http://www.europarl.europa.eu/sides/getDoc.do?pubRef=-%2f%2fEP%2f%2fNONSGML%2bPV%2b20180705%2bRES-RCV%2bDOC%2bPDF%2bV0%2f%2fEN&language=EN>
.

Looks like EPP mainly voted +; GUE/NGL, ECR, EFDD and Green–EFA all tended
to vote –; ALDE, S&D and ENF were pretty evenly divided; and the
Non-Inscrits mainly didn't vote.

(And I thought I sent this forever ago; my bad!)
Post by Anna Mazgal
I said that already to some of you, but generally Strasbourg EP is a
depressing place
 seeing the Wikipedia going dark one after another was so
uplifting! I know this was done for the cause, but it was reassuring on the
personal level none the less. And it stung the defenders of the existing
balance of power where it hurts. It is a privilege and an honor to work
with such a motivated community of great integrity. I (but I think all the
policy people agree?) are happy to carry your voice forward.
Celebrate, rest, and we will get back to work! :)
Best wishes,
Anna
Anna Mazgal
EU Policy Advisor
Wikimedia
@a2na
mobile: +32 487 222 945
51 Rue du TrÃŽne
BE-1050 Brussels
Can't come up with anything that Delphine and Jan haven't already said.
Thank you for your hard work, and know that y'all are an asset to the
movement.
Best regards,
Matthias Smed Larsen
Dear list,
The plenary of the European Parliament has just rejected the Legal Affairs
Committee with 278-318 votes and 31 abstentions.
This was a roll-call vote so will we know exactly who voted how.
This was a very tiring campaign that took us on an emotional rollercoaster
ride. Thanks to all volunteers and staff who helped. I am convinced that it
was us and our actions that made the difference of 30 votes possible.
Please remember though, that this just means that the EP will review the
text in September in plenary. We will need to make sure amendment proposals
are made and they receive a majority.
We will start working on this right away later today, but for the moment
you will understand that I need a drink.
Cheers from Strasbourg,
Dimi
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Mathias Schindler
2018-07-05 13:22:38 UTC
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Data available at
http://www.europarl.europa.eu/sides/getDoc.do?pubRef=-%2f%2fEP%2f%2fNONSGML%2bPV%2b20180705%2bRES-RCV%2bDOC%2bPDF%2bV0%2f%2fEN&language=EN
Post by Owen Blacker
https://twitter.com/Senficon/status/1014837043225088000, linking to the
PDF (see pages 7 and 8)
<http://www.europarl.europa.eu/sides/getDoc.do?pubRef=-%2f%2fEP%2f%2fNONSGML%2bPV%2b20180705%2bRES-RCV%2bDOC%2bPDF%2bV0%2f%2fEN&language=EN>
.
Looks like EPP mainly voted +; GUE/NGL, ECR, EFDD and Green–EFA all tended
to vote –; ALDE, S&D and ENF were pretty evenly divided; and the
Non-Inscrits mainly didn't vote.
(And I thought I sent this forever ago; my bad!)
Post by Anna Mazgal
I said that already to some of you, but generally Strasbourg EP is a
depressing place
 seeing the Wikipedia going dark one after another was so
uplifting! I know this was done for the cause, but it was reassuring on the
personal level none the less. And it stung the defenders of the existing
balance of power where it hurts. It is a privilege and an honor to work
with such a motivated community of great integrity. I (but I think all the
policy people agree?) are happy to carry your voice forward.
Celebrate, rest, and we will get back to work! :)
Best wishes,
Anna
Anna Mazgal
EU Policy Advisor
Wikimedia
@a2na
mobile: +32 487 222 945
51 Rue du TrÃŽne
BE-1050 Brussels
Can't come up with anything that Delphine and Jan haven't already said.
Thank you for your hard work, and know that y'all are an asset to the
movement.
Best regards,
Matthias Smed Larsen
Dear list,
The plenary of the European Parliament has just rejected the Legal
Affairs Committee with 278-318 votes and 31 abstentions.
This was a roll-call vote so will we know exactly who voted how.
This was a very tiring campaign that took us on an emotional
rollercoaster ride. Thanks to all volunteers and staff who helped. I am
convinced that it was us and our actions that made the difference of 30
votes possible.
Please remember though, that this just means that the EP will review the
text in September in plenary. We will need to make sure amendment proposals
are made and they receive a majority.
We will start working on this right away later today, but for the moment
you will understand that I need a drink.
Cheers from Strasbourg,
Dimi
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Simon Hampton
2018-07-06 14:07:36 UTC
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This is a huge achievement.

Since ACTA the massed ranks of big media lobbyists have undoubtedly planned
to ensure they would never lose like that again. Moreover some of the
beneficiaries of today's decision are unloved bug tech companies, so voting
to support their cause wasn't to be taken for granted.

which makes this all the more impressive for the non profit sector. The
battle is not over so I wish you recharged batteries over the summer
Post by Mathias Schindler
Data available at
http://www.europarl.europa.eu/sides/getDoc.do?pubRef=-%2f%2fEP%2f%2fNONSGML%2bPV%2b20180705%2bRES-RCV%2bDOC%2bPDF%2bV0%2f%2fEN&language=EN
Post by Owen Blacker
https://twitter.com/Senficon/status/1014837043225088000, linking to the
PDF (see pages 7 and 8)
<http://www.europarl.europa.eu/sides/getDoc.do?pubRef=-%2f%2fEP%2f%2fNONSGML%2bPV%2b20180705%2bRES-RCV%2bDOC%2bPDF%2bV0%2f%2fEN&language=EN>
.
Looks like EPP mainly voted +; GUE/NGL, ECR, EFDD and Green–EFA all
tended to vote –; ALDE, S&D and ENF were pretty evenly divided; and the
Non-Inscrits mainly didn't vote.
(And I thought I sent this forever ago; my bad!)
Post by Anna Mazgal
I said that already to some of you, but generally Strasbourg EP is a
depressing place
 seeing the Wikipedia going dark one after another was so
uplifting! I know this was done for the cause, but it was reassuring on the
personal level none the less. And it stung the defenders of the existing
balance of power where it hurts. It is a privilege and an honor to work
with such a motivated community of great integrity. I (but I think all the
policy people agree?) are happy to carry your voice forward.
Celebrate, rest, and we will get back to work! :)
Best wishes,
Anna
Anna Mazgal
EU Policy Advisor
Wikimedia
@a2na
mobile: +32 487 222 945
51 Rue du TrÃŽne
BE-1050 Brussels
Can't come up with anything that Delphine and Jan haven't already said.
Thank you for your hard work, and know that y'all are an asset to the
movement.
Best regards,
Matthias Smed Larsen
Dear list,
The plenary of the European Parliament has just rejected the Legal
Affairs Committee with 278-318 votes and 31 abstentions.
This was a roll-call vote so will we know exactly who voted how.
This was a very tiring campaign that took us on an emotional
rollercoaster ride. Thanks to all volunteers and staff who helped. I am
convinced that it was us and our actions that made the difference of 30
votes possible.
Please remember though, that this just means that the EP will review the
text in September in plenary. We will need to make sure amendment proposals
are made and they receive a majority.
We will start working on this right away later today, but for the moment
you will understand that I need a drink.
Cheers from Strasbourg,
Dimi
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Paulo Santos Perneta
2018-07-06 19:44:05 UTC
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Hello all,

If I well understand, the
​
amendment proposals referred to in this message will be done at the Legal
Affairs Committee, before the next part-session in September, and the whole
thing will then be presented at the plenary for debate (not vote) at that
part-session. Is this correct?

Paulo


2018-07-05 11:23 GMT+01:00 Dimitar Parvanov Dimitrov <
Post by Dimitar Parvanov Dimitrov
Dear list,
The plenary of the European Parliament has just rejected the Legal Affairs
Committee with 278-318 votes and 31 abstentions.
This was a roll-call vote so will we know exactly who voted how.
This was a very tiring campaign that took us on an emotional rollercoaster
ride. Thanks to all volunteers and staff who helped. I am convinced that it
was us and our actions that made the difference of 30 votes possible.
Please remember though, that this just means that the EP will review the
text in September in plenary. We will need to make sure
​​
amendment proposals are made and they receive a majority.
We will start working on this right away later today, but for the moment
you will understand that I need a drink.
Cheers from Strasbourg,
Dimi
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Dimitar Parvanov Dimitrov
2018-07-10 09:10:49 UTC
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@Paulo

Next steps:
1. Until 5 September new amendments can be filed. (by any 36MEPs, any
political group or by Catherine Stihler on behalf of IMCO on Article 13).
2. Plenary debate and vote on 11, 12 or 13 September.
Post by Paulo Santos Perneta
Hello all,
If I well understand, the
​
amendment proposals referred to in this message will be done at the Legal
Affairs Committee, before the next part-session in September, and the whole
thing will then be presented at the plenary for debate (not vote) at that
part-session. Is this correct?
Paulo
2018-07-05 11:23 GMT+01:00 Dimitar Parvanov Dimitrov <
Post by Dimitar Parvanov Dimitrov
Dear list,
The plenary of the European Parliament has just rejected the Legal
Affairs Committee with 278-318 votes and 31 abstentions.
This was a roll-call vote so will we know exactly who voted how.
This was a very tiring campaign that took us on an emotional
rollercoaster ride. Thanks to all volunteers and staff who helped. I am
convinced that it was us and our actions that made the difference of 30
votes possible.
Please remember though, that this just means that the EP will review the
text in September in plenary. We will need to make sure
​​
amendment proposals are made and they receive a majority.
We will start working on this right away later today, but for the moment
you will understand that I need a drink.
Cheers from Strasbourg,
Dimi
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